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qv-pap/baptsave.htm" TARGET="_top">"Baptism for Forgiveness of Sins" </A>for more information on this subject.

First baptism scripture for salvation:

See my paper: <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~dennisschmidt/qv-pap/apostbap.htm" TARGET="_top"> "Apostles Baptism" </A>for more information on this subject.

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." No statement that he that is not baptized shall be damned. Both items could of been included.

Response:

Mark 16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; {18} They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." What about all these works for those that believe. If they don't occur, does it mean they don't believe. No, these like baptism are what a maturing Christians will do.

Mark 1:4 "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." Is it John's Baptism that is needed for forgiveness of sins or Jesus Baptism (Romans 6:3-4 and Ephesians 4:5)? We would say, it is baptism into Jesus that saves. Repentance, is needed, means a turning from sins to righteousness, but everything a Christian does is Jesus centered

Colossians 3:17 "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, <do> all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." Every work and deed (baptism) is done in Jesus name. This is why we should baptize in the name of Jesus. In every thing Jesus should get the glory.

Second baptism scripture for salvation:

Acts 2:38-41 "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. {39} For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, <even> as many as the Lord our God shall call. {40} And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. {41} Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added <unto them> about three thousand souls." Baptism is into Jesus which lets others know that you are a disciple of Jesus.

Response:

Was it repentance, baptism, in the name of Jesus, two of them or all three of them that produce the remission of sins. So many scriptures state that believing in Jesus produces sins remission.

(such as Matthew 26:28; Luke 24:47; Hebrews 9:22). A Christian would gladly receive His word (to understand) and be baptized.

Matthew 26:28 "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."Jesus death paid price.

Luke 24:47 "And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

Remission on sins that is to be preached is faith in Jesus.

Hebrews 9:22 "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."Jesus blood

Third baptism scripture for salvation:

Acts 22:16 "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." It's the calling upon Jesus that cleans sin. Baptism is symbol for cleaning.

Response:

Acts 9:17-18 "And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, <even> Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. {18} And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized." Paul was Baptized after his healing and being filled with the Holy Ghost. I think he was forgiven of his sins before his baptism. The baptism confirmed who was his Lord.

Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost" Regeneration also means born again.

Fourth baptism scripture for salvation:

1 Peter 3:20-21 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. {21} The like figure whereunto <even> baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:" It's the resurrection of Jesus that saves not the water which can only wash the filth off the flesh.

Response: This is just like the above scripture showing a washing needed in the inner man. Noah was not saved by water, but by the ark.

John 15:5 "I am the vine, ye <are> the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing." Jesus is our source for all good things. Baptism is a symbol of Salvation of what Jesus did and what we did through faith in Christ (see Romans 6:3-6 below).

Romans 6:3-6 "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? {6:4} Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. {6:5} For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: {6:6} Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin."

baptism symbolizes us, in Christ, being:

- Crucified with Christ Jesus: vs 6;

- Dead with Christ: vs 5;

- Buried with Christ: vs 4;

- Resurrected with Christ: vs 4;

- Newness of life with Christ: vs 4;

Is Baptism a work or deed?: Need baptism to be saves or remits sins?

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: <it is> the gift of God: {9} Not of works, lest any man should boast." God saves, not our works. Grace is an un-merit act by God to us. We do not earn grace by anything we do, say, think or believe. God even supplies the faith to the Christian.

Romans 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think <of himself> more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." God is doing work in us.

Faith is what saves a person:

See my paper: <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~dennisschmidt/qv-pap/faith.htm" TARGET="_top">"Faith" </A>for more information on this subject.

Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith <it is> impossible to please <him>: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and <that> he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." God's method of being pleased is for us to have faith. The faith (forgiveness and eternal life) will produce works (baptism, etc) in the Christian.

Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh <is> in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it <is> the blood <that> maketh an atonement for the soul." A sacrifice of one dying was needed for atonement. Jesus was the perfect sacrifice of a sinless person.

Christianity is a relationship, not a religion of do's & do not's. All other religions center on laws. Christianity has principles. Jesus died two thousand years ago for the sins we commit: yesterday, today and tomorrow. A one time act/deed, by us, does not forgive those sins. The one time act/death and resurrection, by Jesus, has the power to forgives those sins.

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