Is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of Tongues of God or the Devil?

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IS THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE EVIDENCE OF TONGUES OF GOD OR OF THE DEVIL?

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This paper discusses are tongues of the Devil?" with scripture clearly teaching that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with tongues as evidence is from God. The paper is a response to a book by Dr. Yvon Geoffrion "Are Tongues of the Devil?" All scriptures are from the King James' version Bible.

INDUCTIVE COMMENTS:

THEME: God is moving in the last days in His direction. The Christian can move with Him or be left behind. This has always been the problem for the religious person not to follow what clearly is supported by the scriptures. The religious person is under bondage to his teaching or experience & not open to God's word or work.

The Holy Spirit baptism with tongues & power came for the apostles to do miracles, witness, knowledge, guidance, boldness, power over Satan, ETC. This is needed just as much today as when the apostles were here. That is why in these latter days God has restored the Holy Spirit baptism with tongues and power.

Mark 16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; {18} They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

PURPOSE: These gifts are needed today as much as they were needed by the apostles. Paul meets people who may not have understand about Jesus & ask them if they had the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Paul considered this experience to be very important. This is just as true today. Paul knew they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit because they spoke with tongues.

Acts 19:2-6 "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. {3} And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. {4} Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. {5} When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. {6} And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied."

KEY VERSE: This passage has multiple fulfillments i.e. at Pentecost & at the latter days. The tongue’ prophesy is not in Joel. At Pentecost the Holy Spirit baptism occurred with tongues to prove they had it.

Joel 2:27-32 "And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. {28} And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: {29} And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. {30} And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. {31} The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. {32} And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." Afterward means a second fulfillment.

Acts 2:1, 3-6, 16-21 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. {3} And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. {4} And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. {5} And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. {6} Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. {16} But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; {17} And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: {18} And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: {19} And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: {20} The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: {21} And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" 2 comings

WHO: God written mostly by Bible authors Luke, John, and Paul

TO WHOM: Elected Christians

WHAT: God is moving in the last days in His direction. The Christian can move with Him or be left behind. This has always been the problem for the religious person not to follow what clearly is supported by the scriptures. The religious person is under bondage to his teaching or experience & not open to God's word or work.

WHY: God started a new dispensation of working with the Gentiles. The Holy Spirit verified the experience by using the believer's voice to speak a foreign language or tongues.

Acts 10:44-46 "While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. {45} And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. {46} For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,"

WAY:

Acts 2:1, 3-6"And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. {3} And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. {4} And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. {5} And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. {6} Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language"

WHEREAS: Tongues are a gift from God as shown in (Acts 8:20; 10:45; 11:17) & not unbeliever punishments.

Acts 8:19-20 "Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. {20} But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money."

Acts 11:15-18 "And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. {16} Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. {17} Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? {18} When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life."

WHERE: Earth

WHEN: The Holy Spirit baptism with tongues & power came for the apostles to do miracles, witness, knowledge, guidance, boldness, power over Satan, ETC. This is needed just as much today as when the apostles were here. That is why in these latter days God has restored the Holy Spirit baptism with tongues and power.

Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:" The tongues on their heads were like fire.

John 7:37-39 "In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. {38} He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. {39} (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)" How do they know that the Holy Spirit has come - by the tongues and by the power.

These gifts are needed today as much as they were needed by the apostles. Paul meets people who may not of understand about Jesus & ask them if they had the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Paul consisted this experience to be very important. This is just as true today. Paul knew they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit because they spoke with tongues.

WHILE: This same scripture states knowledge shall vanish as well as tongues shall cease. If the knowledge (for example of the Lord Jesus) vanish no person would be saved. When is the perfect to come? The perfect is the return of the Lord Jesus & not the Bible as a book which man both interprets wrong & Bible translations have errors in them.

1 Corinthians 13:8-10 "Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. {9} For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. {10} But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." "Perfect is come" is the return of the Lord Jesus.

No doctrine should be based on only one scripture since this could lead to error. The baptized for the dead scripture is used by Mormons. The true Church of Jesus Christ does not follow this. Likewise the tongues should cease/done away doctrine should not be based on this one scripture.

1 Corinthians 15:29 "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?" Mormons made this into a false doctrine.

PAPER OUTLINE:

I) OLD TESTAMENT - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGN TONGUES:

II) THIS IS FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE:

III) DISPENSATION: SALVATION AT THE TIME OF JESUS IS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE & NOT TO THE GENTILES:

IV) WHY DID GOD CHOOSE ISRAEL?:

V) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES WITH THE JOEL PROPHECY?:

VI) GOD TOLD THEM TO WAIT FOR HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH FIRE:

VII) HOW TO KNOW YOU HAVE THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT? - TONGUE & POWER ARE INCLUDED WITH THE BAPTISM:

VIII) EXAMPLES IN THE BOOK OF ACTS OF HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH TONGUES AS A "GIFT" ARE SHOWN:

IX) GOD'S REVELATION REVEALED IN HIS TIMING IN THE END TIMES:

X) HOLY SPIRIT EXPERIENCES & BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES ARE NOT THE SAME EVENTS:

XI) TWO DIFFERENT TONGUE GIFTS DISCUSSED IN BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT - CHURCH & INDIVIDUAL:

XII) WHAT ABOUT MARK 16:17-18 SCRIPTURES EXPERIENCES:

XIII) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES - CEASE & DONE AWAY?:

XIV) WITH THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES THE OTHER GIFTS (POWER, HEALING, MIRACLES, PROPHECY, ETC.):

XV) ALL THESE SCRIPTURES SUPPORT BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES:

See my paper: "Deeper Bible Topical Papers" WITHOUT COMMENTS & REFERENCE SCRIPTURES for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Salvation Biblical Word Glossary" SALVATION WORD DEFINITIONS ARE SHOWN INCLUDING THEIR HEBREW & GREEK MEANINGS for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "My Doctrine Beliefs" ALL KEY THEOLOGICAL AREAS WITH MY PAPERS ON EACH SUBJECT for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Bible Books & Topics - Subject Cross Index" SHOWS REFERENCES IN BOTH MY BIBLE & TOPIC PAPERS WHERE A TOPIC SUBJECT INFORMATION MAY BE FOUND. for more information on this subject.

I) OLD TESTAMENT - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGN TONGUES:

These verses address a focus on law and not God. It has nothing to do with foreign nations and tongues. God did punish Judah and Israel for their sins by sending foreign nations to defect them.

1 Corinthians 14:21-22 "In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. {22} Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe."

II) THIS IS FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE:

Isaiah 28:9-16 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. {10} For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: {11} For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. {12} To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.{13} But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. {14} Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. {15} Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: {16} Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste."

Isaiah 28:11 is fulfilled by 1 Corinthians 14:21. Israel was focused on law (verses 10 & 13) & not on God (verse 16). God wants His people to be obedient to the law, & trust God. They missed God.

See my paper: "God's Word/Bible/Scriptures" HOW GOD REVEALS HIMSELF; WRITTEN AND ORAL; SAFE GUARDS ON HIS WORD. for more information on this subject.

III) DISPENSATION: SALVATION AT THE TIME OF JESUS IS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE & NOT TO THE GENTILES:

God was working with only the Jews in most of the Old Testament and Gentiles who had to become Jews to enter in during that dispensation.

See my paper: "God's Dispensation & Covenant Plans" AN OVERVIEW OF THE CREATION DISPENSATIONAL & COVENANT (WITHIN EACH DISPENSATION) PLANS ARE SHOWN for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Justification of Faith - Old Testament Doctrine" OLD TESTAMENT JEWS SAVED BY THE SAME WAY AS CHRISTIANS for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Justification" DEFINITION OF JUSTIFICATION; GOD JUSTIFIES VERSUS MAN'S JUSTIFICATION; JUSTIFIED BY GRACE NOT BY LAW THROUGH JESUS FAITH for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Gospel in the Genealogy of Adam" PRESENTED IS GOSPEL IN GENESIS 5 BY THE MEANINGS OF THE PEOPLES NAMES for more information on this subject.

Matthew 10:5-7 "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: {6} But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. {7} And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand." Jesus command.

Matthew 4:15-17 "The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; {16} The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. {17} From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Promise in the Old Testament.

John 4:22 "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews." Jesus made this statement to the non Jew.

Matthew 15:22-26 "And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. {23} But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. {24} But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. {25} Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. {26} But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and cast it to dogs." Jesus example for gentile shows that it was not easy for gentiles to come in at that time.

Luke 24:47 "And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." Preach 1st to Jews, then outward to others.

See my paper: "Is Free Will Biblical?" MANY SCRIPTURES ARE SHOWN FOR PREDESTINATED. OPPOSING FREEWILL VIEWS ARE DISCUSSED for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Some Saved and Some Lost - God's Sovereignty" GOD'S PLAN FOR BOTH PEOPLE THAT ARE LOST & SAVE IS SHOWN for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "God Plans for His Purpose. Who Harden Pharaoh's Heart?" GOD'S USE OF SINNERS TO ACHIEVE HIS PURPOSE IS SHOWN for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Plan of God" DISCUSSED ARE PREDESTINATION AND RELATED TOPICS WITH THEIR GREEK AND HEBREW DEFINITIONS, SCRIPTURES, AND COMMENTS for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "God Will Receive All the Glory" DISCUSSED IS PREDESTINATION PLAN OF GOD FOR SALVATION, SANCTIFICATION, PERFECTION, AND GLORIFICATION. for more information on this subject.

Romans 11:11-12, 15-16, 25-27 "I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. {12} Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? {15} For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? {16} For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. {25} For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. {26} And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: {27} For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." God works with mainly Gentiles during the present dispensation period. After the fullness of the Gentiles come in, God will work again with the people of Israel in the latter times.

See my paper: "Restoration of the Kingdom of God to Israel" ISRAEL IS GODS CALENDAR TO EVENTS. JEWS WILL BE RESTORED & SAVED for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Former & Latter Rains" PARALLEL OF SOWING FOR ISRAEL ARE PRESENTED WITH FUTURE PROBLEMS ISRAEL WILL ENCOUNTER for more information on this subject.

IV) WHY DID GOD CHOOSE ISRAEL?:

Israel was to bless the earth with God's knowledge but they failed to be obedient. True, but God was working with Israel in that dispensation and not all the peoples of the world. As shown up above Jesus failed the test also, since He came mainly to the Jewish people.

See my paper: "Israel & Jewish People in God's Plan" JESUS JEWISHNESS, ISRAEL, JERUSALEM, & JEWS IN GOD'S PLAN; JEWS & GENTILE SALVATION for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Christians Are Not Under Law, But Jews Can Culturally Keep God's Commandments" COMMANDMENTS WERE GIVEN TO JEWS NOT GENTILES; CHRISTIANS ARE NOT UNDER LAW; BUT JEWISH BELIEVERS MAY CONTINUE KEEPING LAW NOT FOR SALVATION for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "What Does God Really Want?" WHAT LAWS OF GOD ARE CHRISTIANS TO FOLLOW. SHOWN ARE STEPS TO RECEIVE GOD FORGIVENESS for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Questions & Answers on Law, Faith & Liberty" THE PURPOSE OF LAW, FAITH BEFORE THE LAW, FAITH IS GOD'S PLAN & LIBERTY FROM THE LAW. for more information on this subject.

V) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES WITH THE JOEL PROPHECY?:

This passage has multiple fulfillments i.e. at Pentecost & at the latter days. The tongue’ prophesy is not in Joel. At Pentecost the Holy Spirit baptism occurred with tongues to prove they had it.

VI) GOD TOLD THEM TO WAIT FOR HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH FIRE:

See my paper: "Holy Spirit Baptism" HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM BENEFITS ARE SHOWN. THE STEPS TO RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM ARE SHOWN for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Triunity: Father, Son, & Holy Spirit" GOD IS A QUALITATIVE ONE TRIUNITY NOT TRIUNE: THREE SEPARATE PERSONS. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Just Who Is God" GOD CAN NOT BE DIVIDED. GOD IS A QUALITATIVE ONE TRIUNITY NOT THREE SEPARATE PERSONS. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "The One God - The Shama" THE KEY BIBLE SCRIPTURE FOR ONE GOD IS DEUTERONOMY 6:4. THE WORD FOR GOD IS A PLURALITY, & THE WORD FOR ONE IS A COMPOUND UNITY. THIS IS THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE FOR GOD WHO IS A TRIUNITY PLURALITY ONE UNITY. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "God the Holy Spirit / Ghost Scriptures & Notes" SCRIPTURES & NOTES THAT SHOW THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD & A MANIFESTATION OF THE TRIUNITY GODHEAD for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Godhead Relationship" HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH MANIFESTATION OF THE GODHEAD FOR FULFILLMENT, NOT ONLY JESUS. for more information on this subject.

Acts 1:4-5 "And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. {5} For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence."

VII) HOW TO KNOW YOU HAVE THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT? - TONGUE & POWER ARE INCLUDED WITH THE BAPTISM:

God started a new dispensation of working with the Gentiles. The Holy Spirit verified the experience by using the believer's voice to speak a foreign language or tongues.

See my paper: "Church Officers and Their Qualifications" THE FIVE FOLD MINISTRIES & THE DEACON MINISTRY ARE PRESENTED for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Apostle" SHOWN ARE THE NEW TESTAMENT APOSTLES & THEIR MINISTRIES for more information on this subject.

VIII) EXAMPLES IN THE BOOK OF ACTS OF HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH TONGUES AS A "GIFT" ARE SHOWN:

Tongues are a gift from God as shown in (Acts 8:20; 10:45; 11:17) & not unbeliever punishments.

IX) GOD'S REVELATION REVEALED IN HIS TIMING IN THE END TIMES:

In the last 1800's the rapture teaching came forward. The background of this teaching came from questionable Christian sources like the modern (restored) Baptism of the Holy Spirit teaching with tongues. God chose to reveal His doctrine in the end times in His way. The rapture doctrine is nonetheless taught as a key teaching in the Bible believing church. Any doctrine God reveals must agree with scriptures as the rapture & Baptism of the Holy Spirit with tongues teachings do.

See my paper: "End Times Events - Day of the Lord" ESCHATOLOGY. GOD'S PLAN FOR THE LAST 7 YEARS END DAYS, INCLUDING MANY RAPTURES, & JESUS 2ND COMING for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Multiple Raptures" THE BIBLE SHOWS HOW GOD HAS RAPTURE MANY PEOPLE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END TIMES for more information on this subject.

Daniel 12:8-10 "And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? {9} And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. {10} Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

John 12:13-16 "Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. {14} And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written, {15} Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. {16} These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him."

Acts 1:6-8 "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? {7} And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. {8} But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

I believe this also applies to the end days since even today the gospel has not gone to whole earth.

1 Peter 1:11-12 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. {12} Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into."

Angels & man do not understand the way God does things & His timing.

Revelation 10:4 "And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not." Even in the end times God will seal things to a latter time.

See my paper: "Jewish Bible Teachings on Heaven, Hell & Spirit Beings" OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES SHOW SUBJECTS. for more information on this subject.

X) HOLY SPIRIT EXPERIENCES & BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES ARE NOT THE SAME EVENTS:

John 7:39 "(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)" Jesus ascension

John 14:16-17 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; {17} Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."Dwells with you is a Spirit Filling. Dwells in you is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

John 20:22-23 "And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: {23} Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained." Not the Baptism of the Holy Spirit that came Pentecost.

Acts 4:31 "And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." This could be either the Spirit filling or the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, {23} Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." The Christian filled.

Ephesians 5:18-20 "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; {19} Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; {20} Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;" This is a Christian filled with the Spirit.

XI) TWO DIFFERENT TONGUE GIFTS DISCUSSED IN BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT - CHURCH & INDIVIDUAL: Gifts for the church versus a gift for the individual:

1 Corinthians 12:4-7, 10, 28, 30 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. {5} And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. {6} And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. {7} "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. {10} To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: {28} And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. {30} Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?" Not all people who speak with tongues have the tongues ministry gift to the Church.

These are not all the same gifts as some are administrations, operations, manifestations, ministries gifts to the church. Everyone with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit will speak with tongues. This is the individual's own prayer language between him and God. This is not the same as a church ministry of tongues and interpretation of tongues.

See my paper: "Many Baptisms Presented in the Bible" SEVERAL BAPTISMS ARE SHOWN FROM SCRIPTURE & THEIR MEANINGS for more information on this subject.

Note: (My comments are within the scriptures below)

1 Corinthians 14:2-5, 14-15, 18, 39 "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. (This language is between the individual and God only.) {3} But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. {4} He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself (The reason he speaks is he is praying a perfect prayer between himself and God since it is God within him that prays. Since he has faith that this is a perfect prayer he is edified. His voice is only used by God for that prayer.); but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. {5} I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. (This does not discourage tongues where God has provided a person to interpret the tongues. In this church ministry, the people hear God speaking to them for the Churches good. Old & New Testament people heard God guiding them directly as individuals. God still uses this means to guide the people for example to send them to various countries.) {14} or if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. {15} What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. {18} I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: {39} Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. (Paul prays by his spirit in tongues & also without tongues more than any of them. He states not to forbid speaking in tongues, which you recommend.)"

Because of correct use of tongues by the flesh of Christians - sin, in the Church, some people do not have the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with tongues. This does not means the Church can not teach her members correct usage of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of tongues.

XII) WHAT ABOUT MARK 16:17-18 SCRIPTURES EXPERIENCES:

The Bible states not to tempt the Lord. Paul was bit by a poison viper which fulfill these verses.

Luke 4:12 "And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." This is from the Deuteronomy scripture, but applies in Mark 16 & Acts 28 as well.

Deuteronomy 6:16 "Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah."

Acts 28:3-6 "And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. {4} And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. {5} And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. {6} Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god."God prevented Satan's death attempt.

XIII) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES - CEASE & DONE AWAY?:

This same scripture states knowledge shall vanish as well as tongues shall cease. If the knowledge (for example of the Lord Jesus) vanish no person would be saved. When is the perfect to come? The perfect is the return of the Lord Jesus & not the Bible as a book which man both interprets wrong & Bible translations have errors in them.

See my paper: "God's Word/Bible/Scriptures" HOW GOD REVEALS HIMSELF; WRITTEN AND ORAL; SAFE GUARDS ON HIS WORD. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Bible Study & Interpretation Guideline" PRESENTED IS HOW TO STUDY SCRIPTURE SYSTEMATICALLY. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Love" DEFINITION OF LOVE; LOVE IN ACTION IS CHARITY; BIBLE LOVE CHAPTERS; EXAMPLES OF LOVE; LOVE COMMANDS for more information on this subject.

1 Corinthians 15:29 "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?" Mormons made this into a false doctrine.

XIV) WITH THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES THE OTHER GIFTS (POWER, HEALING, MIRACLES, PROPHECY, ETC.):

See my paper: "True Gospel for Salvation by the Imputed Righteousness of Jesus" GOSPEL SHOWN IN SCRIPTURES MUST INCLUDE THE REVELATION OF THE IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Imputed/Reckoned/Counted Righteousness of Jesus" TRANSFER OR THE IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS TO THE CHRISTIAN & CHRISTIAN'S SINS TO JESUS. for more information on this subject.

SSee my paper: "What is a Born-Again & How to Become One" BORN-AGAIN PRINCIPLES ARE PRESENTED. THE STEPS TO RECEIVE JESUS ARE SHOWN. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Man's Greatest Need - Relationship With God" ANSWERS QUESTIONS ABOUT GOD CHARACTERISTICS & MAN'S PURPOSES. for more information on this subject.

See my paper: "Faith" FAITH PROMISES PRESENTED FOR EVERY ASPECT OF THE CHRISTIANS LIFE: SALVATION & HEALING. THE CONDITIONS. for more information on this subject.

XV) ALL THESE SCRIPTURES SUPPORT BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES:

God is moving in the last days in His direction. The Christian can move with Him or be left behind. This has always been the problem for the religious person not to follow what clearly is supported by the scriptures. The religious person is under bondage to his teaching or experience & not open to God's word or work.

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